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	<title>Comments on: Flex and Symfony</title>
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		<title>By: rpsblog.com &#187; A week of symfony #86 (18-&#38;gt;24 august 2008)</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpsblog.com &#187; A week of symfony #86 (18-&#38;gt;24 august 2008)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flex and Symfony [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Symfony-Zone &#187; Using sfAmfPlugin part 1</title>
		<link>http://www.symfony-zone.com/wordpress/2008/08/20/flex-and-symfony/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Symfony-Zone &#187; Using sfAmfPlugin part 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote in my last blog article I on my way to develop my first Symfony application with a Flex fronten. Therefore I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I wrote in my last blog article I on my way to develop my first Symfony application with a Flex fronten. Therefore I&#8217;m [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://www.symfony-zone.com/wordpress/2008/08/20/flex-and-symfony/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I'd like to add a few comments regarding qooxdoo ;-) Don't intend to raise any dispute here about various frameworks, but hope the additional info is helpful:

"Qooxdoo (www.qooxdoo.org) is another JavaScript based Widget-System." 
==&#62; Yes, qooxdoo comes with a large set of fancy widgets. With qooxdoo 0.8 the entire GUI toolkit has being reworked, so now it also supports advanced theming capabilities like rounded borders, gradients, etc. But qooxdoo isn't just a "widget set", it rather is a comprehensive RIA framework that for instance also includes a platform-independent tool chain. This tooling takes care of most tasks almost automatically, which are required during development and deployment of an application (e.g. compressor, JavaScript linker, i18n, etc.) http://qooxdoo.org/about/framework

"Compared with ExtJS there are far less features."
==&#62; Actually, I think the opposite is true. ;-) Well, it may be too naive anyway just to count "number" of features without taking into account the individual importance of certain features.
http://demo.qooxdoo.org/devel/demobrowser

"Development is driven by one of the largest european hosting provider."
==&#62; Not that this is really relevant here, but in fact 1&#38;1 is the world's biggest web host.

"The upcoming version 0.8 looks promising but in my opinion this solution is not really ready for enterprise web applications at the moment."
==&#62; Hmm, so why exactly do you think it is not ready for that? Of course, 0.8 is still under development, so the various snapshots and pre-releases may not be all too stable. But 0.8 will of course be ready for enterprise-level applications, even more so than 0.7. For a large-scale qooxdoo app, see the free GMX.com webmailer, http://gmx.com

"For example the Grid-Controll lacks a lot of features that makes the Grid of ExtJS so cool."
==&#62; Agreed. The Table widget may not be as shiny and feature-rich as the ExtJS equivalent is now. While it will certainly get an overhaul in the future, the current qooxdoo Table is being successfully used in a lot of production scenarios.
http://demo.qooxdoo.org/devel/demobrowser/index.html#table~Table.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;d like to add a few comments regarding qooxdoo <img src='http://www.symfony-zone.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Don&#8217;t intend to raise any dispute here about various frameworks, but hope the additional info is helpful:</p>
<p>&#8220;Qooxdoo (www.qooxdoo.org) is another JavaScript based Widget-System.&#8221;<br />
==&gt; Yes, qooxdoo comes with a large set of fancy widgets. With qooxdoo 0.8 the entire GUI toolkit has being reworked, so now it also supports advanced theming capabilities like rounded borders, gradients, etc. But qooxdoo isn&#8217;t just a &#8220;widget set&#8221;, it rather is a comprehensive RIA framework that for instance also includes a platform-independent tool chain. This tooling takes care of most tasks almost automatically, which are required during development and deployment of an application (e.g. compressor, JavaScript linker, i18n, etc.) <a href="http://qooxdoo.org/about/framework" rel="nofollow">http://qooxdoo.org/about/framework</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Compared with ExtJS there are far less features.&#8221;<br />
==&gt; Actually, I think the opposite is true. <img src='http://www.symfony-zone.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Well, it may be too naive anyway just to count &#8220;number&#8221; of features without taking into account the individual importance of certain features.<br />
<a href="http://demo.qooxdoo.org/devel/demobrowser" rel="nofollow">http://demo.qooxdoo.org/devel/demobrowser</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Development is driven by one of the largest european hosting provider.&#8221;<br />
==&gt; Not that this is really relevant here, but in fact 1&amp;1 is the world&#8217;s biggest web host.</p>
<p>&#8220;The upcoming version 0.8 looks promising but in my opinion this solution is not really ready for enterprise web applications at the moment.&#8221;<br />
==&gt; Hmm, so why exactly do you think it is not ready for that? Of course, 0.8 is still under development, so the various snapshots and pre-releases may not be all too stable. But 0.8 will of course be ready for enterprise-level applications, even more so than 0.7. For a large-scale qooxdoo app, see the free GMX.com webmailer, <a href="http://gmx.com" rel="nofollow">http://gmx.com</a></p>
<p>&#8220;For example the Grid-Controll lacks a lot of features that makes the Grid of ExtJS so cool.&#8221;<br />
==&gt; Agreed. The Table widget may not be as shiny and feature-rich as the ExtJS equivalent is now. While it will certainly get an overhaul in the future, the current qooxdoo Table is being successfully used in a lot of production scenarios.<br />
<a href="http://demo.qooxdoo.org/devel/demobrowser/index.html#table~Table.html" rel="nofollow">http://demo.qooxdoo.org/devel/demobrowser/index.html#table~Table.html</a></p>
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